Sardelac Sanitarium's Purpose - Guild Wars Forums

FelixCarter · Sep 22, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

Guru gets alot of suggestions every day - ALOT of suggestions. Some ideas are good. Some ideas are bad. Some ideas should be added the moment they entered a persons brain. Some ideas should have remained non-existant.

However, after all this time, out of all the ideas that have been suggested, has ANet ever implimented one? If so, was it recent?

If the whole point of the Sanitarium is just to "get your ideas out there for people to see," then why do people take it so seriously? That is, when someone suggests that Major runes be dropped from 35 Health to 25 Health, why do people react so vigorously?

My point is...

... In the end, if the Sanitarium's suggestions are never even considered by ANet to be added, and the Sanitarium is not for "getting your ideas to other people," then...

... What's the point of it?

MirageMaster · Sep 22, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Yeah,anet only follows their stupid dev vision and dont want to add things players would like.

Yichi · Sep 22, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirageMaster

Yeah,anet only follows their stupid dev vision and dont want to add things players would like.

Because a lot of things that players would liek only serve their own agenda or personal interest and would not be the best for the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelixCarter

Very few ideas are good. Most if not all of the ideas are bad. Occasionally there are ideas that should be added the moment they entered a persons brain. Almost all of the suggested ideas should have remained non-existant.

I fixed this for you

Skyy High · Sep 22, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Oh please, there have definitely been changes that were suggested in the suggestion forum. Pet controls comes to mind as a recent one.

I do find the "new profession" and "new skill" threads amusing though; they're definitely not releasing any new professions, and probably no new skills either, so they seem rather pointless.

Ensign · Sep 22, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15

The point of that forum is to act as an auto-filter. People, for reasons I cannot imagine, insist on suggesting the same predictable, tiresome ideas over and over again. The existence of the Sanitarium conveniently filters those posts out of otherwise more useful forums and puts them in their own section of the forums where it can be conveniently ignored by people like me. It is the same concept as a spam filter, except instead of having to use software your users do it for you; it is particularly brilliant in that respect. If I want to read the intellectual equivalent of MLM or penis enlargement spam, I can go to the Sanitarium. Otherwise, it gets the same attention the spam folder in my email account does. As such, Sardelac Sanitarium is vital to the long term health of this forum.

Bryant Again · Sep 22, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

The two things off the top of my mind are 1. Giving mini Varesh a scythe and 2...

...Aight I forgot the 2nd one. It might've been disabling minipet noises in outposts.

Interesting that the only ones I know of are minipet related.

AlienFromBeyond · Sep 23, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I think dye preview and white dye were suggested at some point before they were actually implemented.

Winterclaw · Sep 23, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

According to the Anet people that post here, they read the forums, but how much they listen to them are beyond me. Some things posted on the forums, like fixing the loot nerf some, nerfing IWay, nerfing HA to 6 chars, and de-nerfing HA get listed to. I think sassis were partly added because people were asking for a dagger-weilding class and duel weilding.

Does Anet listen in general? Probably not unless they are thinking about some thing and can't decide either way... Or unless people call for a nerf.

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 23, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

I believe the idea for changing the way we can move attribute points around was first suggested there - but that was a lonnnnggggg time ago. (Thank god they changed it!)

HawkofStorms · Sep 23, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Yeah, you'd be surprised how many things actually have been impliamented because of (or purphas, just a coincidence that it was suggested) Sardelac. Some titles come to mind.

Also, the Asuran Sunglasses was also a suggestion.

MisterB · Sep 23, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

After Factions came out, I posted a thread in Sardelac asking to update the favor of the gods in Zin Ku Corridor. Several weeks later, they did. The lack of favor notice was likely an oversight, and it's quite possible that the update was a coincidence.

populationcontrol · Sep 23, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05

do you think their programers have infiltrated these chat rooms and are listening to what we have to say!... lol right

Fril Estelin · Sep 23, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

I suggested a while ago the ability to replay ingame videos and I was surprised one day to see it implemented via an NPC in Prophecies, but this was apparently just a one-off as I haven't seen it since then.

Faer · Sep 23, 2007, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by FelixCarter

why do people take it so seriously?

The Internet is serious business.

Sli Ander · Sep 23, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

I think if you go to the Suggestion Index sticky, down at the bottom is a list of things which have actually be implemented into the game.

Also, its as Ensign says. Its a place to collect all the ideas instead of allowing the same old topics to clutter up forums for different discussions. Besides that, however, you could say its also for all those insane ideas people have inspired by the game. They have to tell somebody what they think would be cool, so why not simply suggest it? Anet can watch and see what gets a positive reaction, and everyone else gets to debate the pros and cons of the suggestion.

Also, even if an idea isn't taken, maybe part of the idea (referring to skill and concept classes) may be incorporated in some way by the devs. I'm a big believer in ideas spawning ideas, as you can sometimes read threads that start out " I was reading this other thread..."

It's a good creative vent for the community, imo.

But that's just my two cents

Sep 22, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#1
FelixCarter Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: Mo/Me	Sardelac Sanitarium's Purpose Guru gets alot of suggestions every day - ALOT of suggestions. Some ideas are good. Some ideas are bad. Some ideas should be added the moment they entered a persons brain. Some ideas should have remained non-existant. However, after all this time, out of all the ideas that have been suggested, has ANet ever implimented one? If so, was it recent? If the whole point of the Sanitarium is just to "get your ideas out there for people to see," then why do people take it so seriously? That is, when someone suggests that Major runes be dropped from 35 Health to 25 Health, why do people react so vigorously? My point is... ... In the end, if the Sanitarium's suggestions are never even considered by ANet to be added, and the Sanitarium is not for "getting your ideas to other people," then... ... What's the point of it?

Sep 22, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15	#5
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	The point of that forum is to act as an auto-filter. People, for reasons I cannot imagine, insist on suggesting the same predictable, tiresome ideas over and over again. The existence of the Sanitarium conveniently filters those posts out of otherwise more useful forums and puts them in their own section of the forums where it can be conveniently ignored by people like me. It is the same concept as a spam filter, except instead of having to use software your users do it for you; it is particularly brilliant in that respect. If I want to read the intellectual equivalent of MLM or penis enlargement spam, I can go to the Sanitarium. Otherwise, it gets the same attention the spam folder in my email account does. As such, Sardelac Sanitarium is vital to the long term health of this forum. __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Sep 22, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#2
MirageMaster Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: EU	Yeah,anet only follows their stupid dev vision and dont want to add things players would like.

Sep 22, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52	#4
Skyy High Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	Oh please, there have definitely been changes that were suggested in the suggestion forum. Pet controls comes to mind as a recent one. I do find the "new profession" and "new skill" threads amusing though; they're definitely not releasing any new professions, and probably no new skills either, so they seem rather pointless.

Sep 22, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#6
Bryant Again Hall Hero Join Date: Feb 2006	The two things off the top of my mind are 1. Giving mini Varesh a scythe and 2... ...Aight I forgot the 2nd one. It might've been disabling minipet noises in outposts. Interesting that the only ones I know of are minipet related.

Sep 23, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#7
AlienFromBeyond Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR] Profession: W/	I think dye preview and white dye were suggested at some point before they were actually implemented.

Sep 23, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32	#8
Winterclaw Wark!!! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Profession: W/	According to the Anet people that post here, they read the forums, but how much they listen to them are beyond me. Some things posted on the forums, like fixing the loot nerf some, nerfing IWay, nerfing HA to 6 chars, and de-nerfing HA get listed to. I think sassis were partly added because people were asking for a dagger-weilding class and duel weilding. Does Anet listen in general? Probably not unless they are thinking about some thing and can't decide either way... Or unless people call for a nerf.

Sep 23, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#9
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	I believe the idea for changing the way we can move attribute points around was first suggested there - but that was a lonnnnggggg time ago. (Thank god they changed it!)

Sep 23, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51	#10
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Yeah, you'd be surprised how many things actually have been impliamented because of (or purphas, just a coincidence that it was suggested) Sardelac. Some titles come to mind. Also, the Asuran Sunglasses was also a suggestion.

Sep 23, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50	#11
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	After Factions came out, I posted a thread in Sardelac asking to update the favor of the gods in Zin Ku Corridor. Several weeks later, they did. The lack of favor notice was likely an oversight, and it's quite possible that the update was a coincidence.

Sep 23, 2007, 08:05 AM // 08:05	#12
populationcontrol Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: USSR Profession: D/	do you think their programers have infiltrated these chat rooms and are listening to what we have to say!... lol right

Sep 23, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30	#13
Fril Estelin So Serious... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Guild: Nerfs Are [WHAK] Profession: E/	I suggested a while ago the ability to replay ingame videos and I was surprised one day to see it implemented via an NPC in Prophecies, but this was apparently just a one-off as I haven't seen it since then.

Sep 23, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25	#15
Sli Ander Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls Guild: Liberators of Agony Profession: Mo/R	I think if you go to the Suggestion Index sticky, down at the bottom is a list of things which have actually be implemented into the game. Also, its as Ensign says. Its a place to collect all the ideas instead of allowing the same old topics to clutter up forums for different discussions. Besides that, however, you could say its also for all those insane ideas people have inspired by the game. They have to tell somebody what they think would be cool, so why not simply suggest it? Anet can watch and see what gets a positive reaction, and everyone else gets to debate the pros and cons of the suggestion. Also, even if an idea isn't taken, maybe part of the idea (referring to skill and concept classes) may be incorporated in some way by the devs. I'm a big believer in ideas spawning ideas, as you can sometimes read threads that start out " I was reading this other thread..." It's a good creative vent for the community, imo. But that's just my two cents